1 John 2:20. It was the most commonly used text type for Protestant denominations. The King James Only movement asserts that the King James Version (KJV) of the Bible is superior to all other English translations of the Bible. This quote is from Bruce Metzger's book, A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament. There are only 2 streams of Bible versions, the true text of the Textus Receptus (Majority Text) on which the King James Version is based, and those which picked up the Alexandrian manuscripts (Minority Text) which have been shown to have deleted and changed many parts of the text and are unreliable. Although based on the relatively few available manuscripts, these were representative of many more which existed at the time but only became known later. The Western text type indicates a lineage, so to speak, a tracings of its authenticity. One appeal of the newer Bibles is because they are "dumbed down" using simpler and simpler language. In Latin this phrase boiled down to the textus receptus, and hence an advertising blurb became associated with the Greek texts of the Erasmus–Stephanus– Beza line so that today one will find the phrase used to describe the text from which the KJV was translated. This is also the text that agrees with more than 95% of the Bible Manuscripts in Koine (common) Greek. For many advocates of the majority text view, a peculiar form of the doctrine of the preservation of Scripture undergirds the entire approach. It means that they cannot extract the meaning from what they read.Let's identify the real problem. This is also the text that agrees with more than 95% of the Bible Manuscripts in Koine (common) Greek.It is known by other names, such as the Traditional Text, Majority Text, Byzantine Text, or Syrian Text. Thanks so much for this. Textus Receptus Bible chapters shown in parallel with your selection of Bibles. P46, P66). We also go on record as being opposed to the Revised Standard Version of the Bible, The Living Bible, the New English Translation of the Bible, the Reader's Digest Condensed Version, the New International Version and the public use of other modern versions. However, Lucian's day was an age of apostasy when a flood of depravations was systematically attempting to devastate both the Bible manuscripts and Bible theology. On the other hand, the Byzantine text-type, of which the textus receptus is a rough approximation, can boast of being presented in the vast majority of surviving manuscripts, as well as several important versions of the New Testament from the fourth century or later, and as being the text usually found in the quotations of Greek writers in the fifth century and after. [11] His comic Sabotage portrayed a Christian whose faith was shipwrecked by the rejection of the King James Version as the Word of God, only to be rescued by another character's defense of the King James Version. Herman C. Hoskier, Codex B and Its Allies – a Study and an Indictment, (1914), Vol I, p. 468, D. A. Carson, The King James Version Debate, (1979), p. 75, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Learn how and when to remove this template message, List of Bible verses not included in modern translations, List of major textual variants in the New Testament, "400 Years of the King James Bible – ensign", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=King_James_Only_movement&oldid=1000362657, Short description is different from Wikidata, Articles with unsourced statements from January 2020, Articles needing additional references from November 2018, All articles needing additional references, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. This does not mean they cannot read words. Textus Receptus vs. Critical Text Textus Receptus vs. Critical Text. The Byzantine text family that makes up the Textus Receptus, which is behind the KJV and the NKJV is 80-85% in agreement with the Alexandrian text family that is behind almost all modern translations. Verse Analysis. Bakershalfdozen. The Textus Receptus “ruled supreme” as the textual base for the Bible from the 16th century to the close of the 18th (Theological Propaeduetic, New York: Charles Scribner, 1916, pp. The Textus Receptus is very similar to the Majority Text, but there are in fact hundreds of differences between the Majority Text and the Textus Receptus. The Western Text. The main texts, Sinaiticus and Vaticanus, contradict each other over 3,000 times in the gospels alone, and they disagree with the ‘ Majority Text… United Bible Society Greek Text (UBS4) Nestle Aland Greek Text (NA28th) Textus Receptus Greek Text (TR) Some Differences Between the KJV & the ESV Part 1; Some More Differences Between the KJV & the ESV Part 2; Some More Differences Between the KJV & the ESV Part 3; Some More Differences Between the KJV & the ESV Part 4 Textus Receptus vs Alexandrian Text. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Further improvements were made during the following century, which ultimately resulted in the Textus Receptus (i.e., the “Received Text”). However, the earliest manuscripts that provide distinguishable readings date to about 200 AD (e.g. [17], The theories of Westcott and Hort ... [are] almost universally accepted today. The Lucian Recension Theory. These critics include the editors o… I have never been a "KJV-only" because I believe that many modern translations can bring clarity to the table. It is altogether too little known that the real editor of the Received Text was Lucian. Of early Christian writers before the fourth century, the Alexandrian text has substantial support, especially in the writings of Origen, whose Scripture quotations are exceedingly numerous. It is identified with Origen, Westcott-Hort, and Aland., also called the Novum Testamentum Graece or Critical Text. This was the prevailing theory up until the 1960's. Alert: since learning some Greek, I recommend the NKJV and NASB depending on whether you prefer the Critical Text vs. the Textus Receptus and Majority Text. Westcott and Hort Only. 1.The Textus Receptus. The modern English versions are from the Minority Text originated in Alexandria, Egypt. Verse Analysis. Most Bible critics do not believe that the Bible is perfect (The Alexandrian Ideology). For this purpose, I rarely - if ever - use an NIV because of its textual inconsistencies (eg, Mark 16).I do consider the Alexandrian Codices to be corrupt. Wilkinson of Washington Missionary College writes in his book Truth Triumphant: The Protestant denominations are built upon that manuscript of the Greek New Testament sometimes called Textus Receptus, or the Received Text. Library . They usually also accept the Alexandrian manuscripts as superior to those of Antioch. Today's Posts; Member List; Calendar; Forum; Christ Life; Bible Chat; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Adherents to this belief may also believe that the original languages, Hebrew and Greek, can be corrected by the KJV. Wilkinson of Washington Missionary College writes in his book Truth Triumphant:[14]. If Jesus doesn't come back for another 500 years, are we still going to be reading the KJV in 2500 AD?? This is the historic Greek received text used by the Christian Church for 2000 years. A King James Bible believer accepts the Antiochian manuscripts or Textus Receptus as superior to the Alexandrian. Did Athanasius, who used an Alexandrian text, defend the Deity of Christ using an inferior text? Alexandrian Text Type. It is that Greek New Testament from which the writings of the apostles in Greek have been translated into English, German, Dutch and other languages. However, the Alexandrian text type is 200 years older. However, today’s texts are not identical to these earlier texts. Adherents of the King James Only movement, largely members of evangelical, conservative holiness movement, traditional High Church Anglican, and Baptist churches, believe that the KJV is the greatest English translation ever produced, needing no further improvements, and they also believe that all other English translations which were produced after the KJV are corrupt. This is the historic Greek received text used by the Christian Church for 2000 years. The Tyndale, Geneva, King James, etc., translations are translated from what is called the Textus Receptus Greek text (the Greek used for the Strong's Concordance). The Alexandrian is a text type (as is the Byzantine). The Westcott and Hort Only Controversy. Robert Estienne 1550 Theodore Beza 1598 Elzevir 1624 Scrivener 1894 Reina Valera 1909. At least three-quarters of a century of scholarship had gone into the Textus Receptus by the time of the KJV. Advanced Member; Bakershalfdozen 0 Posted July 14, 2008. (4) The damp climate of the Mediterranean area limited the durability of the good manuscripts of the Textus Receptus … Some of the manuscripts representing the Alexandrian text-type have the Byzantine corrections made by later hands (Papyrus 66, Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Ephraemi, Codex R… Textus Receptus. Answer: The Textus Receptus (Latin for “Received Text”) is a Greek New Testament that provided the textual base for the vernacular translations of the Reformation Period. A detailed, 40-page comparison of Bible verses/versions and the existing manuscripts upon which Bibles are based. … During the dark ages the Received Text was practically unknown outside the Greek Church. "A Critique of the King James Only Movement". Scholars in favor of the critical text of the bible, view the Codex Sinaiticus to be one of the greatest Greek texts of the New Testament and the codex is a celebrated historical treasure by many modern scholars, along with that of the Codex Vaticanus. Some so-called scholars are impressed because a couple of manuscripts are the oldest surviving complete New Testaments, surviving partially due to the dry climate in which they were preserved. By Bakershalfdozen, July 14, 2008 in The Bible (KJV) Share Followers 0. "the text we have, now received by all": the words from the Elzevier 1633 edition, in Latin, from which the term "Textus Receptus" was derived.. The exact identity of which TR (Stephanus or Elzevir), and of which edition, may vary among collators; nevertheless, it's still the TR. Now it is considered full of mistakes by all modern scolars: Erasus based this text on one or two very late middle age codex. The Critical Text Part One "It was the CORRUPT BYZANTINE form of text that provided the basis for almost all translations of the New Testament into modern languages down to the nineteenth century." These assertions are generally based upon a preference for the Byzantine text-type or the Textus Receptus and a distrust of the Alexandrian text-type or the critical texts of Nestle-Aland, and Westcott-Hort, on which the majority of twentieth- and twenty-first-century translations are based. Corrupt Path – The ‘ Minority Text’ consists of only 5% of existing manuscripts . "[13], B.G. The Textus Receptus says the old commandment is the word which ye have heard "from the beginning". The vast majority of evangelical scholars hold that the basic textual theories of Westcott and Hort were right and the church stands greatly in their debt. My biggest problem with the KJV is that most modern-day English speakers simply cannot understand it. [6], Although not expressly "King James Only", The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints recommends the Latter-day Saint edition of the King James Version of the Bible. [8], Gail Riplinger (born 1947) has also addressed the issue of differences in current editions of the King James Bible in some detail. Reply to this topic ; Start new topic; Recommended Posts. Textus Receptus vs. Byzantine (Majority) Text On Willker's textual criticism list (Yahoo Groups) James Snapp Jr . recently posted an excellent summary of the relationship between the Textus Receptus (TR) and the Majority Text (Byzantine text-type). Great read, and I learned a lot. c. Other names given to the Majority text include: the Antiochian text, Byzantine text, Traditional text, Apostolic text, the Eastern text and the Textus Receptus (Latin for Received Text). "the text we have, now received by all": the words from the Elzevier 1633 edition, in Latin, from which the term "Textus Receptus" was derived.. The codex is an Alexandrian text-type manuscript in uncial letters on parchment. Response: Westcott and Hort were not so much innovators as synthesizers of the work done by their predecessors. Perhaps a third of American adults are considered functionally illiterate. Visit the library for more information on the Textus Receptus. J. H. Greenlee of Asbury Theological Seminary: The textual theories of W–H [Westcott & Hort] underlies virtually all subsequent work in NT textual criticism. 4. Answer: The Textus Receptus (Latin for “Received Text”) is a Greek New Testament that provided the textual base for the vernacular translations of the Reformation Period. The Textus Receptus was compiled and edited by Erasmus in the 16th century. Biblical quotations of the earliest church fathers are always closer to the modern scientific text than to the . The oldest New Testament manuscript fragment is P52, which dates to about 125 AD. Erasmus used several Greek manuscripts, which were eastern / Byzantine in nature. Leszek Jańczuk 12:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC) The good example of an untaught thinking and argumentation you can find in: Providential Preservation of the Text of the NT. None of Lucian's enemies fails to credit him with this work. Textus Receptus vs Alexandrian Text. [12], Joey Faust, a Baptist pastor and researcher, is the author of The Word: God Will Keep It: The 400 Year History of the King James Bible Only Movement which documents a number of KJV Only proponents throughout history. [7], Benjamin G. Wilkinson (1872–1968), a Seventh-day Adventist missionary, theology professor and college president, wrote Our Authorized Bible Vindicated (1930) in which he asserted that some of the new versions of the Bible came from manuscripts with corruptions introduced into the Septuagint by Origen and manuscripts with deletions and changes from corrupted Alexandrian text. Many will directly claim that the TR is the M-Text, or will say that the TR represents “the vast majority of Greek manuscripts.” Neither of these are true statements. The Greek text he was defending was the Textus Receptus while the text he was writing against were those by Tischendorf and Westcott and Hort. "I Like the KJV Best" – Although White lists this point of view as a subdivision of the KJVO group, this is disputed by some. http://newsletters.cephasministry.com/papyrus6.99.html, http://www.geocities.com/benwebb.geo/faithofChrist.html, http://www.chick.com/ask/articles/nkjvtext.asp. It was restored to Christendom by the labours of that great scholar Erasmus. The Byzantine text and the Textus Receptus are not the same. Many will directly claim that the TR is the M-Text, or will say that the TR represents “the vast majority of Greek manuscripts.” Neither of these are true statements. This is the reason why Catholics have attacked fiercely against the Textus Receptus. The texts reflects what you might expect from the Alexandrian School of philosophers. The Methodological Argument 2. Compares the 1550 Stephanus Textus Receptus with the King James Bible. Miller's arguments in favour of readings in the Textus Receptus were of the same kind. Many in this group might accept a modern Bible version based on the same Greek and Hebrew manuscripts which are used in the KJV. More: some parts were translated back in greek from latin!!! Wilkinson B.G., Truth Triumphant: The Church in the Wilderness, Hartland Publications, (Rapidan, Virginia, 2004), p. 50. To start viewing messages, select the … Since the Alexandrian Codices were definitely older than any document in the Textus Receptus, it was believed that these verses did not exist in the original manuscripts that the apostles wrote & were added by eager scribes & priests sometime between the 3 rd century & the 5 th. Whatever the question... there is an answer. A. Hort, first published in 1881. The Majority Text & Textus Receptus vs. Modern Bibles: NLT Version -- FREE - Free download as PDF File (.pdf), Text File (.txt) or view presentation slides online. The Protestant denominations are built upon that manuscript of the Greek New Testament sometimes called Textus Receptus, or the Received Text. Majority Greek Text vs. Modern Versions. Amy. The King James New Testament was based on the traditional text of the Greek-speaking churches, first published in 1516, and later called the Textus Receptus or Received Text. Modern translations are indeed corrupt and leading many astray. When compared to witnesses of the Western text-type, Alexandrian readings tend to be shorter; and are commonly regarded as having a lower tendency to expand or paraphrase. In fact, the two sides have moved closer together over the years. By Bakershalfdozen, July 14, 2008 in The Bible (KJV) Share Followers 0. The ESV comes in a very distant third, and no others are even on the board. The rates of literacy amongst Americans have been falling for decades. 166-67). The Textus Receptus is the text that has been used for 2,000 years by Christians. The Textus Receptus is the text that has been used for 2,000 years by Christians. Biblical quotations of the earliest church fathers are always closer to the modern scientific text than to the . Second, assuming that the majority text is the original, then this pure form of text has become available only since 1982. There are only 2 streams of Bible versions, the true text of the Textus Receptus (Majority Text) on which the King James Version is based, and those which picked up the Alexandrian manuscripts (Minority Text) which have been shown to have deleted and changed many parts of the text and are unreliable. Will be a regular follower. The Textus Receptus is very similar to the Majority Text, but there are in fact hundreds of differences between the Majority Text and the Textus Receptus. ... Alexandrian Text. Wilkinson of Washington Missionary College writes in his book Truth Triumphant: The Protestant denominations are built upon that manuscript of the Greek New Testament sometimes called Textus Receptus, or the Received Text. Doug Wilson, Pastor of Christ Church, in Moscow, ID, answers some questions that were asked of him. "The Textus Receptus was the collation-base for many collations. The two most famous attempts at restoring the original text of the New Testament are the Textus Receptus, dating from the Reformation and post-Reformation era, and the Greek text of B. F. Westcott and F. J. The KJV is a translation of an edition of the Greek New Testament text called the Textus Receptus. It is like how the Roman Catholic Church read the Bible only in Latin and banned vernacular translations which common people could understand. However, the Alexandrian text type is 200 years older. Super Contributor; Advanced Member; 0 3,475 posts; Advanced Member; Report; Share; Posted July 14, 2008. One such writer was 19th century American Southern Presbyterian theologian Robert L. Dabney. Text of Textus Receptus destroys prestige and authority of Alexandrian texts and … 2. The Textus Receptus reading supports apostolic authorship of the epistle, a point that is disputed among liberal scholars concerning 2 Peter. The Byzantine text family that makes up the Textus Receptus, which is behind the KJV and the NKJV is 80-85% in agreement with the Alexandrian text family that is behind almost all modern translations. He criticized Westcott and Hort, believing they intentionally rejected the use of the Textus Receptus and made changes to the text used in translation using their revised Greek text based mainly on the Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus. [10], Jack Chick (1924–2016), a fundamentalist Christian who was best known for his comic tracts, advocated a King James Only position. It is known by other names, such as the Traditional Text, Majority Text, Byzantine Text, or Syrian Text. [19], Movement asserting the superiority of the King James Version of the Bible. c. Other names given to the Majority text include: the Antiochian text, Byzantine text, Traditional text, Apostolic text, the Eastern text and the Textus Receptus (Latin for Received Text). However, I will always reference back to the KJV. B.G. In Christianity, the term Textus Receptus (Latin for "received text") designates all editions of the Greek texts of the New Testament from the Novum Instrumentum omne established by Erasmus in 1516 to the 1633 Elzevier edition; the 1633 Elzevier edition is sometimes included into the Textus Receptus. By the 1800s, however, the discovery of many additional early copies of New Testament texts led to new published editions of the New Testament that used a more eclectic method of textual criticism . d. Therefore, we will refer to the two lineages based on their origins: Antioch/Antiochian and Alexandria/Alexandrian. Most modern translations are based on an edition of the Nestle-Aland/United Bible Society (NA/UBS) text. It is extremely common for King James Only advocates to conflate the “Majority Text” (M-Text) with the “Textus Receptus” (TR), or the tradition of printed Greek texts behind the King James Version. 18 The Textus Receptus differs from it in almost 2,000 places—and in fact has several readings that have “never been found in any known Greek manuscript,” and scores, perhaps hundreds, of readings that depend on only a handful of very late manuscripts. Even advocates and defenders of the supremacy of the textus receptus over the Alexandrian text agree in this assessment. To me, saying everyone should read only the KJV is a way of making God's Word inaccessible to common people. Of early Christian writers before the fourth century, the Alexandrian text has substantial support, especially in the writings of Origen, whose Scripture quotations are exceedingly numerous. Karl Lachmann (1850) was the first New Testament textual critic to produce an edition that broke with the Textus Receptus, relying mainly instead on a few manuscripts from the Alexandrian text-type. 4. It is extremely common for King James Only advocates to conflate the “Majority Text” (M-Text) with the “Textus Receptus” (TR), or the tradition of printed Greek texts behind the King James Version. (United Bible Society) really vary little from the W–H [Westcott & Hort] text. This means that the text of Textus Receptus diverges very much from teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. 1 John 2:7. The documents contained in the Alexandrian text type are the Sinaiticus and Vaticanus. I highly recommend avoiding the post-2011 NIV and NLT like the plague. Erasmus updated his Textus Receptus in 1519, 1522, and 1527. Douglas Wilson, for instance, argues that the KJV (or, in his preferred terminology, the Authorized Version) is superior because of its manuscript tradition, its translational philosophy (with updates to the language being regularly necessary), and its ecclesiastical authority, having been created by the church and authorized for use in the church. This Textus Receptus published by Erasmus would serve as the standard Greek text for the New Testament for the next 300 years. [18], The two most popular manual editions of the text today, Nestles-Aland and U.B.S. Although the majority of New Testament textual critics now favor a text that is Alexandrian in complexion, especially after the publication of Westcott and Hort's edition, there remain some proponents of the Byzantine text-type as the type of text most similar to the autographs. This view is often called "Ruckmanism" after, This page was last edited on 14 January 2021, at 20:18. The KJV will be even more incomprehensible then than it is now. For example in 196… Leszek Jańczuk 16:00, … Beza edited the Textus Receptus nine times between 1565 and … The Textus Receptus was compiled and edited by Erasmus in the 16th century. Erasmus used several Greek manuscripts, which were eastern / Byzantine in nature. Not anymore. So the Alexandrian text was used primarily in Egypt. d. Therefore, we will refer to the two lineages based on their origins: Antioch/Antiochian and Alexandria/Alexandrian. The Majority Text vs. It was a printed text, not a hand-copied manuscript, created in the 15th century to fill the need for a textually accurate Greek New Testament. See a similarity? Philip, Do you realise that you are talking about illiteracy? T he differences between the two texts are many and important. Neither Lucian nor Erasmus, but rather the apostles, wrote the Greek New Testament. [citation needed], The 2015 Manual of the Bible Missionary Church, a Methodist denomination in the conservative holiness movement, states: "We wholeheartedly endorse the use of the Authorized Version (King James Version) of the Bible as the final authority in our English-speaking churches and schools. "The Textual Argument" – This group believes that the KJV's Hebrew and Greek textual base is more accurate than the alternative texts used by newer translations. This explains why the Textus Receptus is very similar to the Majority Text. MAJOR UPDATE COMING LATER THIS YEAR! Their premise is that the doctrine of the preservation of Scripture requires that the early manuscripts cannot point to the original text better than the later manuscripts can, because these early manuscripts are in the minority.Pickering also seems to embrace such a doctrine. Origen, of the Alexandrian college, made his editions and commentaries of the Bible a secure retreat for all errors, and deformed them with philosophical speculations introducing casuistry and lying. It was a printed text, not a hand-copied manuscript, created in the 15th century to fill the need for a … Compares the 1550 Stephanus Textus Receptus with the King James Bible. Textus Receptus. Stephanus also edited the Textus Receptus in 1546, 1549, 1550, and 1551. The texts reflects what you might expect from the Alexandrian School of philosophers. Textus Receptus Bible chapters shown in parallel with your selection of Bibles. B.G. I used to by KJV-only. (4) The damp climate of the Mediterranean area limited the durability of the good manuscripts of the Textus Receptus to 150 or 200 years. Textus Receptus readings generally provide stronger doctrine. Subsequent textual critical work [since 1881] accepted the theories of Westcott and Hort. However, the antiquity of these manuscripts is no indication of reliability because a prominent church father in Alexandria testified that manuscripts were already corrupt by the third century. These manuscripts come from Egypt and are witnesses of the Alexandrian text-type. The Textus Receptus says "ye know all things", not "ye all know". The Textus Receptus is the text which the King James translators used. And those collations are still useful. 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